Rick Perry is making the rounds and talking to mainstream media outlets. Part of his strategy seems to be a self-supposed “populist” stance toward banking.

Perry thinks American banks are struggling and that they are strangled by burdensome and oppressive regulation. To fix that, he thinks we need to start repealing some of the laws that govern the big banks. Notably, the Dodd-Frank regulations, because he says that’ll help small banks.

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